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twicky_kid · Dec 12, 2005, 03:56 PM // 15:56

Ranger interrupts right now are broken. anyone using a touch skill can tell you what the problem is.

if you have a spell in que and you are interrupted it will interrupt that skill even if it is no being cast. touch and attack skill are the most common interrupted like this. while you chase after the target to touch them it is in que.

my midnight sig just got interrupted every single time i used it. 1/4 casting speed with 10 fast casting and i still get interrupted.

in my view that is broken. why should you be interrupted when you are not even casting a spell?

Sol_Vie · Dec 12, 2005, 04:09 PM // 16:09

That isn't broken- that's either a bot or an incredibly good and or lucky interrupter.

Also, if he was using choking gas, he didn't need to hit you- it interrupts on it's own. If he had Incendiary Arrows on, all he had to do was hit you. =\

Ellix Cantero · Dec 12, 2005, 04:10 PM // 16:10

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Originally Posted by Sol_Vie

That isn't broken- that's either a bot or an incredibly good and or lucky interrupter.

Also, if he was using choking gas, he didn't need to hit you- it interrupts on it's own. If he had Incendiary Arrows on, all he had to do was hit you. =\

Wasn't choking gas, it couldn't have interrupted signet of midnight.

xcutioner · Dec 12, 2005, 04:12 PM // 16:12

I think the real problem here is you got kited.

Nerf Kiting Anet!! omgwtfpwntimhoftw1!!eleven!!!!1

No seriously. It's been like that forever and you are just getting around to noticing queued skills get interrupted. And omg it needs to be nerfed! It makes me lose anet! and I'm a Winner!

wow I don't think I'll have any more sarcasm juice left after that post.

Can I ask what weapon you are using for you're touch build? If it's a non-melee weapon then you only have yourself to blame. Did you have have a speed buff? Kinda hard to have touch skills queued when you are speed buffed. Did you try snaring them? Kinda hard for them to run away if you had snared them.

O but wait it's the interrupts that are broken, certainly not my build! It was handed down to me by Moses at Mount Sinai, etched in stone so it would be hard to lose(unlike my darn chariot keys), and after all it's God's build. So ranger interrupts have to nerfed!! Can't u see god's build can't be changed?!? snares/speed buffs or changing my build is right out!

damn I found some more lurking sarcasm! hehe

Shadowspawn X · Dec 12, 2005, 04:13 PM // 16:13

When you clicked the skill to que it you did cast it, you just put it in a state of suspension while it waits its turn to activate. If you have a 1/4 sec cast time no need to que it, by queing it you are lengthing the cast time becase its gotta wait till the 1st skill is done. I dont think it has anything to do with rangers, a mesmer or warrior with disrupting chop could have done the same thing.

Sol_Vie · Dec 12, 2005, 04:13 PM // 16:13

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Originally Posted by xcutioner

I think the real problem here is you got kited.

Nerf Kiting Anet!! omgwtfpwntimhoftw1!!eleven!!!!1

No seriously. It's been like that forever and you are just getting around to noticing queued skills get interrupted. And omg it needs to be nerfed! It makes me lose anet! and I'm a Winner!

wow I don't think I'll have any more sarcasm juice left after that post.

Can I ask what weapon you are using for you're touch build? If it's a non-melee weapon then you only have yourself to blame. Did you have have a speed buff? Kinda hard to have touch skills queued when you are speed buffed. Did you try snaring them? Kinda hard for them to run away if you had snared them.

O but wait it's the interrupts that are broken, certainly not my build! It was handed down to me by Moses at Mount Sinai, etched in stone so it would be hard to lose(unlike my darn chariot keys), and after all it's God's build. So ranger interrupts have to nerfed!! Can't u see god's build can't be changed?!? snares/speed buffs or changing my build is right out!

damn I found some more lurking sarcasm! hehe

Wow talk about unnecessary flaming... take it easy there, partner.

As for the choking gas thing- I wasn't sure about that, but I figured I'd still throw it out there in case...

As for the disrupting chop or mesmer thing above, it doesn't work that way. It doesn't interrupt the second skill being used- it only stops it from being used. So once you're able to cast again you can use the skill. And there is no difference in effect between a warrior's Disrupting Chop and a ranger's Distracting Shot.

ghezbora · Dec 12, 2005, 04:14 PM // 16:14

it's not in queue while you're moving to range, it's in use. i've been interrupted by rangers and by mesmers while moving to range to attack or cast spells. the easiest place to see this is to try to use a bow attack uphill against a mob with an interrupt, it will nail you every time.

now, you may argue that while you're moving to range it shouldn't be considered in use (and I probably would agree), but it's not a ranger problem.

twicky_kid · Dec 12, 2005, 04:15 PM // 16:15

when you use it you run at your target to touch them. it is in que at that time. if they interrupt while you are running at them to use it its interrupted.

you never even get to cast it at all.

this was in pvp not pve. being interrupted by real players rangers.

Uzul · Dec 12, 2005, 04:21 PM // 16:21

if i see someone with his hand up... axewielding and charging me.... well then i know he is up to something...

if same person hides the axe under his cloak till i turn around while standing next to me...... *chop chop*

touch skills are like that, even a ranger charging another ranger with pointblank can get it interupted that easily: you can avoid it by beeing in range for the skill you want to use.

dont use your touch skills to reach ppl... reach them and then touch or else i and many other rangers will get you every single time, regardless of casting speeds.... (like pressing space to attack a bane signet monk or running there and then attacking - while doing the first you will get knocked down. doing it 2ndly you won't sit down)

not broken inmo

ghezbora · Dec 12, 2005, 04:23 PM // 16:23

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid

when you use it you run at your target to touch them. it is in que at that time. if they interrupt while you are running at them to use it its interrupted.

you never even get to cast it at all.

so attack, and once you're in touch range (to attack), THEN use your skill.

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid

this was in pvp not pve. being interrupted by real players rangers.

I don't see why this matters at all...

twicky_kid · Dec 12, 2005, 04:26 PM // 16:26

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Originally Posted by ghezbora

so attack, and once you're in touch range (to attack), THEN use your skill.

I don't see why this matters at all...

because its a 1/4 casting with 10 fast cast being interrupted while its not even being cast. that's why i feel this is wrong.

in que is not in use its waiting to be used. i have never seen another post about this and would like to know what everyone thinks about it.

Shadowspawn X · Dec 12, 2005, 04:33 PM // 16:33

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid

when you use it you run at your target to touch them. it is in que at that time. if they interrupt while you are running at them to use it its interrupted.

you never even get to cast it at all.

I understand now, you did cast it, but to far away because it wont release till you touch the foe. Your probelm is you are telegraphing when you cast too far away. Move in closer or sneak up on someone distracted if you want to get that off.

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid

being interrupted by real players rangers.

Again, it doesnt have anything to do with rangers its your technique. A mesmer or warrior would have stopped you also.

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid

because its a 1/4 casting with 10 fast cast being interrupted while its not even being cast.

Its casted when you push the button. Stop blaming your play performance on rangers.

ghezbora · Dec 12, 2005, 04:35 PM // 16:35

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid

because its a 1/4 casting with 10 fast cast being interrupted while its not even being cast. that's why i feel this is wrong.

in que is not in use its waiting to be used. i have never seen another post about this and would like to know what everyone thinks about it.

Thanks for misquoting me. The "this doesn't matter" part of my post was re: pvp instead of pve.

Moving on, you've simply misunderstood the mechanics. They're interrupting you during your run, not during the 1/4 second cast. You think it's impossible to interrupt at this time (i.e. before the 1/4 second starts) but that's not the case. Don't start using your skill while you're out of range if you don't want that to happen.

EagleEye33 · Dec 12, 2005, 04:38 PM // 16:38

it seems right to me, if u clicked the skill your going to use it, distracting shot knocks u down therefore stoping all actons, so if its in que it stops, just like all things that knock u down

Uzul · Dec 12, 2005, 04:42 PM // 16:42

similar to bane signet... if you charge on it with space pressed you are "about to attack" which counts for the knockdown... use W to charge it and just get some holy damage.

xcutioner · Dec 12, 2005, 04:51 PM // 16:51

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Originally Posted by Sol_Vie

Wow talk about unnecessary flaming... take it easy there, partner.

It's all in good fun. If I overreacted to the "Nerf" Cry, then I apologize, but this looked like a knee-jerk response post, so I wasn't taking it very seriously.

A skilled ranger will kite and interrupt a touch player.
A non-skilled ranger will just get lucky at best.

The point I was making is that if you are being kited and it causes your build a problem, then you can change you're build.

Complaining to nerf something because you lost isn't the way to go

Twicky got beat by a ranger that knew what he was doing, whereas he probably can beat other rangers with this touch build(and probaly has), and yet somehow this one incident requires a nerf. I'm sorry but things look really balanced at this point.

tomcruisejr · Dec 12, 2005, 04:57 PM // 16:57

ranger interrupts require less-to-no skill to use.

distracting shot, punishing shot, savage shot. i can spam them all and rely on luck to interrupt someones skill. these skills interrupt skills and action : (spell, enchants,skill, attack, etc)

incendiary arrows, anyone?

good thing there's mantra of resolve.

Agent · Dec 12, 2005, 05:58 PM // 17:58

I also experience the problem with signet of midnight. A ranger will easily interrupt it unless you move right up next to him *before* hitting the key to activate the skill. If you do this though they will very rarely interrupt you.

Pevil Lihatuh · Dec 12, 2005, 06:03 PM // 18:03

just one thing I'd like to point out that i've noticed. I don't know if this has any relevance for or against this post, if at all. but I figured I'd throw it into the mix anyway.

In PvE, against things such as Giant Herders that do the Stomp to knockdown (effectively an interrupt), my queued skills don't get interupted unless its the one casting. I.e. say I'm halfway through Kindle Arrows and have Poison Arrow queued after it, Kindle will be interruped and Poison will stay queued and activate straight away.

Deadlyjunk · Dec 12, 2005, 06:29 PM // 18:29

The only ranger interrupt that's broken in my opinion is Distracting Shot. Think about it: it can be used from outside casting range immediately, it interrupts within 0.5 secs of it being used and disables. Now compare it to the warrior counterpart: Disrupting Chop.Disrupting Chop needs you in melee range, with adrenaline in reserve to do the same thing. And despite all that, loads of people still use it. To give you an idea of how broken it is...